{"id":593,"date":"2017-07-18T10:15:03","date_gmt":"2017-07-18T14:15:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.homesweetroam.com\/blog\/?p=593"},"modified":"2017-07-17T16:09:58","modified_gmt":"2017-07-17T20:09:58","slug":"generating-ample-frustration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.homesweetroam.com\/blog\/index.php\/2017\/07\/18\/generating-ample-frustration\/","title":{"rendered":"Generating ample frustration."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently made a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.homesweetroam.com\/blog\/index.php\/2017\/07\/06\/keeping-things-moving-smoothly\/\" target=\"_blank\">little post about changing the oil<\/a> and filters in the RV &#8216;van&#8217; and the Jeep. \u00a0I also mentioned doing the same to the Generac QP40 generator in the RV, but noted that would be in a later blog post since there were extenuating circumstances. Here is that post.<\/p>\n<p>Where do I start? Anywhere would be better than the generator, which doesn&#8217;t start AT ALL. \u00a0I mean it makes noise. Noises. Lots and lots of &#8216;that should not sound like that&#8217; noises. What started with a small, slow oil leak I couldn&#8217;t quite isolate seems to have become something larger, very quickly. I regularly topped off the oil over the past 2 months so it didn&#8217;t run out, but it never seemed to want to keep it all in either. Filter changes also didn&#8217;t help.<\/p>\n<p>Finally it just decided to stop on a hot day in Colorado. Attempts to revive it were unsuccessful and rewarded with the sounds of random metal parts flinging around against each other.<\/p>\n<p>With the generator dead, going into the warmest part of summer, you can understand how this would be a big pain in the butt. It is, but it gets bigger when you find out (like I have) that Generac STOPPED making RV generator sets. Shortly after mine was installed into my coach at the factory. This means a few things &#8211; 1. No one really works on them anymore and 2. If they do work on it, they can&#8217;t get parts very easily if at all. Even the Coachmen Factory is no help as they didn&#8217;t keep any spares around, figuring generator shops would be able to support these systems directly.<\/p>\n<p>Going through a list of generator shops in the Denver area &#8211; and by that I mean everything from Colorado Springs up to the Wyoming border &#8211; the idea of getting a fix seemed impossible. Getting a replacement is possible of course, but also has its pitfalls. First of those is that no one seemed to know what generator set was currently the choice replacement. I wouldn&#8217;t expect these shops to know that of course, but even the RV dealers were unable to tell me. In fact, the Coachmen factory parts department wasn&#8217;t even able to get themselves focused long enough to walk out to the factory floor and read a model number off of a gen set going into a new coach when I called. In the end, I had to swing by a Forest River (parent company to Coachmen) dealer&#8217;s lot and walk the rows checking under the skirts of all of the similar RV&#8217;s waiting for new owners.<\/p>\n<p>The new generator used in my kind of coach is an Onan\/Cummins RV QG 4000, by the way. Dealers (who have these on their lots) and factory personnel (where they&#8217;re all put together) please take note! Someone else with a failed Generac is going to be calling. Soon.<\/p>\n<p>The next pitfall to a replacement is the price tag. A dealer could give me the whole kit for $4100.00 + labor to install. This is an easy pitfall to cross if you have that kind of scratch laying around, but then you get to the real problem: no one can make this swap on short notice. In fact, it seems that Summer is &#8216;the busy season&#8217; for RV dealers to do work on coaches, &#8220;because everyone&#8217;s travelling&#8221;. No they&#8217;re not, or you wouldn&#8217;t be booked up with 2.5 months of work and RV&#8217;s lined up on your lot waiting for service. People aren&#8217;t &#8220;travelling&#8221; if their RVs are sitting here broken. Also, when I got back to Houston this past winter and tried to line up a few dealer visits I was told that WINTER is the busy season, because NO ONE is travelling so they wanted work to be done. Make up your minds!! Either way, the soonest I could get an expensive replacement for my barely-500-hours generator is mid-September.<\/p>\n<p>Next pitfall to the plan? Good Sam Extended Service Plan. I have one&#8230;a GOOD one, with a low deductible and &#8216;fast turn around&#8217; times to make sure that if this ever happened, I could get it dealt with quickly and easily. Turns out, all they can do is google what dealers are in my area. They can&#8217;t set an appointment &#8211; even at a Camping World, which they basically own &#8211; and they therefore can&#8217;t get me any kind of &#8220;priority placement&#8221; seeing as they can&#8217;t schedule anything at all. Moving beyond that, once I confirm they are reading the same Google listing I am, and then tell them I&#8217;ll try to set up the appointment myself to get it replaced, I am told that I first need an ASE certified generator mechanic to diagnose the issue and verify a replacement Onan is the best option.<\/p>\n<p>A) Dealers don&#8217;t work on Generators &#8211; they outsource it<br \/>\nB) Generac doesn&#8217;t make generators for RVs anymore, so there is NO 1:1 replacement option.<br \/>\nC) Someone who doesn&#8217;t know what a generator is could diagnose this one as KIA over the phone. It&#8217;s THAT bad.<\/p>\n<p>This leaves me looking ahead down the road and the calendar. I&#8217;m currently attempting to arrange a Camping World in the Seattle area to diagnose the Generac when we arrive in August, and be able to order a replacement quickly so we can have it installed within 5 weeks of that diagnosis &#8211; which is when we&#8217;re set to leave Washington and head south down the coast. This is, of course, so that my extended service plan will cover the cost. I could have a new generator set by next week, IF I just want to pay the $5K out of pocket.<\/p>\n<p>So, here we are in Montana now. We&#8217;re enjoying the scenery which is wonderful, and it&#8217;s helping take the sting out of the fact that the extended service plan I pay a decent amount for each month, is doing little to nothing for me at this point, and that the whole ordeal is costing me now since we need to avoid dry-camping in order to have electricity hook-ups for the A\/C to run. Ironically the past 2 days having perfect weather only adds insult to injury as we haven&#8217;t had to run it at all.<\/p>\n<p>There will definitely be more updates to this ordeal down the road. Hopefully, in the end, this will conclude with a SUPPORTED and WORKING generator living under the RV again!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently made a little post about changing the oil and filters in the RV &#8216;van&#8217; and the Jeep. \u00a0I also mentioned doing the same to the Generac QP40 generator in the RV, but noted that would be in a later blog post since there were extenuating circumstances. Here is that post. 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